A Rapturous Can of Worms ...

[Nobody]

I guess I will open a rapturous can of worms on the topic of Daniel's 70 Seven's.

This being an apparent divine time table, how is it that eschatologists (End Time Preachers, Prophets and Teachers) take their liberty at dividing the time table and inserting a "Gap Theory"?

Without the Gap Theory, and I do mean theory, which IMHO was devised by heretics and followed by lunar-tics (play on words), the futuristic eschatological view goes bye bye very quickly.

So what are the boards thoughts on:
1. the rapture theory as proposed by main line christianity?
2. the time of the Kingdom of God being set up?
3. the true temple of God?
4. The abomination that makes desolate?
5. The coming of Christ?

Like I said, A Can of Worms!

Please be nice, as I believe we need to give these things and others some serious consideration.

Thanks in advance (TIA)

Dr.N

[Nobody]

No comments yet?

Hmmm.

[Basilikos]

1. the rapture theory as proposed by main line christianity?

The Rapture takes away the destiny and glory of the Church, the Body of Christ and gives escapists reason to glorify an endtime antichrist. So instead of Jesus giving the Church victory over all of the enemies of Christ, the mainline sees us being removed from the scene so Jesus can return and kick butt. As though He didn't finish the work he was destined to complete 2000 years ago...remember "IT IS FINSHED!"

2. the time of the Kingdom of God being set up?

The Kingdom of God was set up by Jesus Christ. He crushed all other kingdoms and triumphed completely over the devil. He was given authority and power over all things and He is The King of The Kingdom NOW! There is no GAP!

3. the true temple of God?

Is who we are...We are the temple and we are inhabited by The Father , Son, and Holy Ghost. Heaven is a place within us where He has set up His Kingdom.

4. The abomination that makes desolate?

Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the Prophet, standing where it ought not...
Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,even so must the Son of man be lifted up...
Act 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be made desolate, And let no man dwell therein: and, His office let another take.
The Son of God was hung on a cross, an abomination because He had to sacrifice Himself to pay our debt of sin and it left the house of Israel desolate because the Kingdom of God had been taken from them and given to another nation that would produce the fruit thereof.

5. The coming of Christ?

He has come to those that will receive Him.
Joh 14:28 Ye heard how I said to you, I go away, and I come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, because I go unto the Father: for the Father is greater than I.
Joh 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth: It is expedient for you that I go away; for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I go, I will send him unto you.
Christ (The Comforter) came at Pentecost and has been coming ever since to those that will answer the door and receive Him. He is here!! The second coming has taken place, and the 3rd, fourth, five hundreth, three thousandth, etc

[Nobody]

Thanks for the reply, Basili!

I'll comment later. Have to run!

Much appreciated.

N

[WatchmanRay]

When God meets man in the first dimension, He meets us in the Feast of Passover. Jesus appears to us, He comes to us as SAVIOUR in that realm. "When I see the blood, I will pass-over you!" (Ex. 12:13). I dare say every reader of these lines has passed through that Feast, has met and seen and experienced the Lord in that realm. "For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us" (I Cor. 5:7). Jesus is the Lamb of God. The Old Paschal Feast is gone forever. We no longer need a Paschal Feast of the old type, we no longer need to appear before the Lord in Jerusalem in the Old Feast, for HE HAS APPEARED unto us as the Lamb of God and has cleansed us with His precious blood. Has God met with you for the first time? Has Christ come to you in the first dimension? Has He appeared to you as the Lamb of God? Have you eaten the Lamb? If so, the Lamb is WITHIN you!

The Feast of Pentecost was a separate Feast and the Pentecostal experience is a separate experience. Has God met with you a second time? Has Christ come to you in a second dimension of His presence and life and glory? Has He come from heaven as a rushing mighty wind and filled your house with power and glory? Has He appeared to you as Baptiser with the Holy Ghost and fire? Have you appeared before Him in the spiritual Feast of Pentecost? Then you are blessed indeed! But God does not stop at Pentecost and the second Feast is but the "earnest" and the "firstfruits" of the final Feast! In Israel the Feast of Pentecost was "the feast of harvest, the FIRSTFRUITS of thy labors" (Deut. 16:9-12). Under New Testament economy this is the FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT. "And not only they, but ourselves also which have the FIRSTFRUITS of the Spirit..." (Rom. 8:23).

The last great Feast of the Israelite year was Tabernacles ... and startling as it might seem, this is the Feast that remains to be fulfilled! Tabernacles is called "the Feast of Ingathering, which is in the END OF THE YEAR." Pentecost is only the firstfruits of the Spirit, but Tabernacles is the full harvest - FULLNESS! And this fullness comes in the END of the year, at the completion of our walk with God, and I believe that we have not witnessed such fullness in any save in our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and neither shall we until the very close of this present age, The Feast of Tabernacles could not be celebrated until Israel had left the wilderness behind, and was dwelling in Canaan. Even so, Christ is bringing a great company of apprehended ones, in the END of this age, out of their wilderness wanderings of immaturity, carnality and struggle on into their promised land - the measure of the stature of the FULLNESS OF CHRIST. Oh, yes, God shall surely give unto the elect sons of God the FULLNESS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD of which we, up until this time, have only received the "earnest" or "firstfruits."

I do not hesitate to say that we are still partaking of the Feast of Pentecost. But I have good news for you. JESUS IS COMING AGAIN! He is coming in the Feast of Tabernacles, and BLESSED are they who are called to this great Feast, that which supersedes Pentecost, that which is the balance of the meal of which Passover and Pentecost were merely the first courses. As we leave this Feast in great strength, those who shall represent the Kingdom of God on this planet from that time forth will be abiding in the fullness of HIS RESURRECTION LIFE. It shall mean a new day of hope and deliverance and glory for the whole earth as the Lord COMES AGAIN to meet man in this great and glorious Feast of HIS FULLNESS. This is the coming of the Lord that. the churches and television and radio evangelists know nothing about. The "rapture" crowd doesn't actually believe in the "COMING of the Lord" anyway - they believe in the "GOING of the saints"! While we teach the "APPEARING of Jesus" they teach the "DISAPPEARING of the Church." How much more wonderful and beautiful is the truth! Jesus is COMING! Glory

[Basilikos]

I really enjoyed your post WatchmanRay. It is definitely a much better position to have eaten of the Lamb and to be moving toward the Fullness of Christ and the Feast of Tabernacles rather than disillusioned and frantically trying to survive until a disappearance of the church.
Deferred hope is an evil thing! Pro 13:12 "Hope deferred maketh the heart sick; But when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life."

Basilikos